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Accounting on Force.com

Last week at Dreamforce Europe 08 Coda Group launched Coda2Go - an SaaS accounting application that runs on the Force.com platform.

In their press release they note:

  • Powerful international on-demand accounting application from one of Europe’s leading financial systems providers
  • Biggest ever development project on Force.com Platform-as-a-Service
  • First accounting application designed from inception to integrate with Salesforce CRM applications

It’s certainly the biggest Force.com app I’ve seen, most of which to date have been feature add-ons for Salesforce.com rather than full blown applications in their own right.

Release 1 of Coda2Go is called Opportunity to Cash and continues Salesforce’s process which ends at converted opportunities and carries on through credit management, invoicing, accounts receivable, ageing and collections, and cash allocation.

One of the advantages which I haven’t seen mentioned is the ability to extend the app and potentially integrate with other Force.com apps you use. But the biggest drawback seems to be the price. Initial pricing is a whopping $125 per user per month. Their target market however is customers who are already willing to pay a healthy price for Salesforce.com itself.

At the moment I’ll put Coda2Go in the keep an eye on category but I’m sticking with Xero for now.

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Benioff - Web 3.0 is PaaS

I love this - at the Salesforce.com mega conference in London, Marc Beniof stated that;

We think Web 3.0 is now upon us. It’s the era of platforms….New platforms are coming right out of the cloud. It’s time to make a choice. You can continue to build your applications in the software model or you can move your applications to the new model of cloud computing. There is a new way to build your applications.

Now I’m firmly in the camp that says it’s inconsequential (and a waste of time) spending time defining exactly what web 1.0 2.0 and 3.0 really are, but it’s interesting that Beniof believes PaaS to be quite so game changing. I have to say that salesforce’s own PaaS offering would be significantly more game changing if it was more economically proced but there yu have it.

An interesting development, and one covered more by Phil over here, is the opening up of the platforms. As Phil says;

One of the most striking aspects of Benioff’s new message is that it’s no longer about trying to get everyone using Salesforce.com’s platform. Showing a slide with logos from 21 different PaaS providers, he acknowledges the emerging diversity of the PaaS landscape: “The hallmark of all these platforms of a service is that different ones serve different markets and different developers.” Facebook serves the consumer, Amazon targets LAMP stack developers, Google App Engine is for Python developers, while Force.com serves the enterprise market, he explains.

This is a marked change from the old paradigm exemplified by Microsoft, whose success has been predicated on grabbing a near-monopoly with its Windows desktop platform. In stark contrast, as Benioff goes on to point out, on the Web it’s easy to combine platforms, for example mashing up Facebook and Force.com functionality. “Unlike the old platforms where you had to choose which one to get locked into, you have a lot more flexibiity and a lot more freedom,” he says.

Interesting, and more open, times.

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New McKinsey study on SaaS for enterprise…

A new McKinsey report just released documents the paradigm shift evident in corporate IT. The survey canvassed 850 corporate software buyers and shows just how much attention on-demand is gaining in their minds.

Key takeaways;

  • SaaS is rapidly becoming mainstream
  • 75% are favourably disposed to utilising SaaS for development and deployment
  • around 20% of this years software budget to be spent on SaaS (higher % for smaller businesses and lower for larger as expected)

McKinsey says the move to web apps creates an ascendency of platforms and splits these platforms into three distinct categories;

  • development platforms (bungee labs, coghead etc etc)
  • delivery platforms (EC2, S3 etc)
  • app led platforms (force.com, intuit’s new offering)

Truth is that the survey doesn’t tell us anything new, corporate IT however is reluctant to jump into something without existing support and traction, this survey will ease their fears about SaaS/PaaS and most likely accelerate the trend.

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Is there a SaaS 1.0 and a SaaS 2.0?

With all the attention of late that PaaS providers are getting, it seems a good time to reflect on the stark contrast between two types of SaaS provider: those who do their own infrastructure, and those who farm it out.

Everyone knows that salesforce.com is the grandaddy of SaaS vendors, and it has gone down the only path that was open to it when it was conceived, that of creating and hosting its own infrastructure. As the somewhat acidic FSJ commented;

Benioff, ironically, has built his business around a bloated, overly expensive, outdated business model, a model that comes straight out of the late Nineties — he’s running his own data center, and he’s using Sun servers and Oracle software. It’s like “Back to the Future.” Meanwhile the rest of the world has leapt ahead onto Intel architecture and Linux. For Benioff to survive into the era of the cloud he’ll have to rip up his entire architecture and rebuild it. Yeah. It’s like that. He’s stuck. And he knows it. He’s not doing cloud computing. He’s doing what we all already recognize was a precursor to the cloud.

Already the CEO of SaaS vendor Sonian Networks uses the term “Legacy SaaS” to refer to those player of old who actual do their own hosting and serving.

I think it’s too early to entirely discount the self-hosting strategy, but it does seem, with ubiquitous, scalable and economically priced PaaS solutions now available from a number of vendors, that proprietary infrastructure will go the way of greenscreens.

A post over on ZDNet that included this estimated price for hosting a CRM type app on BungeeConnect;

At $3.60 per month it would seem something of a no-brainer to avoid the hassle, scaling issues and non-core business removal of focus that self provided infrastructure would cause.

So, over to the readers to vote;

If your IT department gave you the option, would you chose for business use;

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Dreaming of a mesh world

The blogosphere is abuzz with discussion about Microsoft’s LiveMesh announcement yesterday. Essentially, and initially, LiveMesh is a platform that allows synchronization (currently PC only) between machines and the clouds by collecting various feeds into one locale.

Given the timing of this announcement, it was fortuitous that I was scheduled to speak with Gibu Thomas, CEO of SugarSync today. I started off by using the opportunity to talk to Gibu about what LiveMesh means for his own offering.

He’s very upbeat saying that the main takeaway from the Microsoft announcement is that it is an affirmation of what they have been espousing for the past 4 years. Gibu told me that for the first year of their offering they were unable to obtain funding - synchronisation wasn’t seen as a growth area. The industry realises that under todays multi-device scenario, synch is a core requirement for users. I then went on to ask Gibu some other questions about his offering and mesh in general.

What comments can you make as to Microsoft’s abilities to create a compelling synch platform?

What Microsoft says is important, it is a real validation for SharpCast (the company behind SugarSync) that Microsoft deems it so important and sees that there is in fact a monetizable business behind it - the economics of bandwidth and storage are such that broader synch options cannot be free on an ongoing basis.

If mesh is important however, mesh providers need to be Switzerland - any device, be it WinTel, Mac, Symbian, iPhone etc need to be part of it. It is hard to see how a proprietary player can create a truly neutral mesh platform.

There are lots of in-the-clouds backup options out there - explain what gives your offering a point of difference?

It is all about reducing complexity in people’s lives. SugarSync can be thought of as successful when people forget it exists - but it fulfils their requirements in the background. For years the notion of “your stuff anywhere and on anything” has been in existence. That notion will come to fruition when it occurs with no real user time and effort, but a seamless and background set of processes.

One of SugarSync’s points of difference is that it provides for near instantaneous live active syncing. When a user accesses a copy remotely it is synched back to all his other devices. There is a need to make synch transparent, to abstract it from the specific devices a user may have. While other offerings rely on replicating files from device to device, we’ve created functionality that avoids the bandwidth and memory issues this might raise this includes inline transcoding of file types and the ability to intelligently route the syncing and downloading direction.

It’s about repurposing the synch experience, the success of Blackberry is an example of this, it succeeded in large part due to it’s transparency and immediacy, users didn’t need to create a schedule for syncing - from their perspective their Blackberry data IS the same data as on their Outlook instance - Mesh platforms should work similarly.

One of the biggest barriers to people moving their data to the clouds (be it office productivity apps, SaaS accounting or backup) is the trust factor. People are scared that a) someone might do something dodgy with their data b) the service provider might disappear along with the data. How do you instill confidence in your customers that you’re here to stay?

There is a difference between perception and reality when it comes to this issue. A few years ago I wouldn’t have dreamed of leaving my credit card with an e-commerce business, but would have typed it in each time. Now I have no qualms having Amazon store my cc number given the ease it gives me to be able to one click purchase.

People’s perceptions will shift given time, and mesh platforms will give the user the ability to choose which files sync to the clouds and which only sync between devices. The data itself is encrypted on the wire and in the data centre.

We also escrow the key - while some users might wish to hold the key themselves, they are less keen when they realise that if the key is lost then so is the data. More savvy users however are able to obtain the key thus providing yet another layer of security for the offering.

The benefit synch offerings have over cloud backup is that if the provider disappears, the data is still there, synched between all the devices - it doesn’t rely on data in the clouds and is thus arguably an easier sell than pure play SaaS

Bandwidth is a big limiting factor to the move to the clouds. Do you see that you’re providing a solution that will become more palatable as speeds increase or do you have some other strategies to ease the connectivity pain?

Bandwidth well get better with time, having said that users demands will also increase. Technologies can help to increase the efficiency of the downloads and take specific use cases and solve them (for example creating a P2P sync for some usages). There is an initial price to pay to get data synched - like mirrors in lift lobbies users should take the opportunity caused by a meaty upload to go out and smell the roses!

Any last words Gibu?

The real key is that the move to a mesh situation is like the move from VCRs to TiVO. With synch there have been many point solutions that solved a subset of the user needs, but it’ll be the platforms that provide a broader offering that will create real user value. Synch is an important offering as it encompasses backup, sharing, access and collaboration.

Disclosure - Sharpcast has given Diversity Limited free SugarSync access.

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Uptime/Downtime/Badline

The HP Upline system launched last week was yet another in the plethora of online (SaaS) backup solutions - I blogged about some others a few days ago.

Only a week into the service however, Upline was down, with users receiving the following email;

Dear HP Upline Service subscriber,

On Thursday, April 17th, HP suspended operation of the HP Upline Service.
We fully anticipate that suspension of the Upline Service will be temporary
and short in duration, and will notify you when the Upline Service is
operational again.

Please accept our sincere apology for this unanticipated interruption of
your access to the Upline Service. We appreciate your patience as we launch
this new service, and are working hard to minimize inconvenience caused by
this service interruption.

If you are a resident of the United States, your subscription will remain in
effect and you will be able to continue using the Upline Service for the
duration of your subscription period once the Upline Service is operational
again. Thank you for your patience, and we look forward to providing you
with the HP Upline Service.

If you are not a resident of the United States, we regretfully must inform
you that the initial launch of the HP Upline Service was intended for United
States residents only. Unfortunately, our filtering tools did not
adequately screen for subscribers residing outside of the United States. We
thank you for your early adoption of the Upline Service, and look forward to
being able to provide the HP Upline Service to you when we launch it in your
country of residence. Since the HP Upline Service is presently offered for
use within the United States only, we will be discontinuing your current
subscription. After we notify you that the Upline Service is operational
again, you will have a limited period of time to access and download files
that you have uploaded onto the HP Upline Service servers. After that time
period, you will no longer have access to your present HP Upline Service
account. If you would like to be contacted by us when the HP Upline Service
is made available in your country of residence, please send us an email at
help@upline.com. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Sincerely,
The HP Upline Team

Three things here;

1) What sort of amateur operation fails to get their filtering sorted so that they inadvertently miss sort geographical subscribers, for that matter what does geographical boundaries have to do with a vanilla type service like backup?

2) As I’ve said before - key for SaaS vendors is trust - customers need to have firm belief in the security and integrity of the offering and in the robust protection of their most valuable asset, their data. Debacles such as this one do nothing to further the business case for organisations to switch from installed to SaaS apps

3) In this era of ubiquitous PaaS offerings, what sort of problem necessitates pulling a service such as this one

All in all a very bad look for HP. (Thanks for the info MF).

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Has SaaS become what it disrupted?

I read a piece about 2 weeks ago that gave me one of those moments: you know, when a whole lot of pieces fall into place and your mind races. It was titled You Become what you disrupt

Since that moment I’ve become increasingly aware of this trend in the SaaS world. (It’s like when you buy a new car, suddenly all you see is the same car). It’s my contention that SaaS has itself fallen foul of some of the very (bad) traits it set out to remove. All for sound economic reasons, but the proof is there.

Lock in - Force.com, Amazon.com, Google.com (plus a whole bunch more ). Here’s a list of the glittering stars of SaaS, internet and PaaS. All going after lock in. Tim O’Reilly comments on the Google App Engine.

Keeping the internet as an open platform is a choice. We didn’t understand what was happening to the PC ecosystem, but we’ve seen this movie before, so we should recognize and fight this plot line when we see it happen on the internet. We need to keep our cloud services vendors honest, and tell them we want an open, interoperable platform, not one based on lock-in.

Bob on Smoothspan suggests that Amazon should more aggressively move toward lock in to further its financial success. Hmm, I thought lock-in was so last decade? Isn’t one of the tenets of SaaS the way you can change vendors easily?
Interoperability. Hey software vendors, get this. We want our applications to work together! Have a quick think about why Microsoft desktop applications are so wildly successful. They did two things

  1. they made it simple to use. The leap from DOS to GUI was massive in making PC’s mainstream.
  2. they made all the programmes you commonly use work together on the same platform. Its my understanding that way back when they brought the various services like word and excel together one at a time (the argument about how successful this was done is irrelevant for most people), they made it easy to do.

Fast-forward to Monday, SaaS commentator Phil Wainewright went into overdrive about the SFDC / Google Apps integration. Saying a bunch of stuff including;

This is a showcase for on-demand integration. Salesforce for Google Apps is a close integration of two distinct on-demand application stacks, in which both applications can continue to follow their separate upgrade and evolution paths without breaking the integration.

(In the interests of honesty & integrity, so did I about Salesboom.)
But think about that. So basically you’re saying wow, you can integrate two apps together. Ummm so like integrating your SAP GL with CRM from Seibel. Or how about Payroll with Accounts. Ok, I’m assuming it happened a bit quicker, but the mere fact that Phil is trumpeting this as a major event is…well sad. This isn’t new, way back it used to be called EDI, then that became unfashionable so it became integration, then webservices and the latest mashup. Sorry, but I would have thought in a 2.0 world this was EXPECTED.

Identity, look at what is going on here. The fact that OpenID exists is to address the same issue users have been fighting since application silos were in nappies. The nirvana here is single sign-on. IMHO Google’s suite of products is so useful because I’ve got identity federation across them. This still isn’t addressed. Take the iPayroll/Xero example above. They’ve got database integration, but no identity bit. To the best of my knowledge none of the vendors allow for single sign-on (does Force.com? Does anyone?)

Proprietary systems - ok here (with one large noticeable exception) SaaS providers seem to be doing quite well. The ability to create customisations (widgets or whatever) seems to be quite universally applied. My question is (and the point of this post) is for how long? Using history as an indicator, this free for all can’t last. For a couple of reasons;

  1. Vendor share, someone will dominant and change this. You’ll be able to write customisations, but for one company not many. Then you’ll see a bunch of small companies writing auxillary apps for the core…force.com anyone?
  2. Commercial pressures, freeware just doesn’t cut it. Ad funded apps, well for the time being ok. But the relevance of Adwords is declining, surely that makes that model questionable? Sooner or later the market is going to come under pressure. That means a couple of things, consolidation and pressures to retain (lock in) customers…

So has SaaS failed by becoming like the old established players? Who has it failed? Was it all inevitable? Am i way off base?

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PaaS from a bookkeeping app? Think beachheads….

Breaking news from Intuit that they are launching a cloud computing offering to compete with Force, AppEngine, Amazon etc.

Intuit is the creator of Quickbooks (think 3.6million users for their bookkeeping offering) and it would seem that this offering is all about creating applications wrapped around Quickbooks (a la Force does with Salesforce) and creating, in essence, a complete SMB offering.

It’s sounding interesting - a very rough split could see Force take enterprise users, Intuit the SMEs and Amazon/Google the consumer market (although that’s a little simplistic and it is very early days yet).

Bob reports that early customers are working on things like;

  • Customer Service
  • Employee Scheduling
  • Existing software vendors looking to add new modules
  • Solution providers looking to move from 1:1 custom work to converting their domain knowledge into applications so they can sell products 1:Millions

I’ll be keen to read the thoughts of the likes of Apprenda about this - is it a threat or simply further validation of PaaS

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PaaS - monolithic or segmented stacks…

An excellent post over on SaaS blogs locks at two possibilities for PaaS. One is very vertical in nature (AppEngine, Force etc) providing all the various layers needed for the offering (library layer, delivery layer, compute layer). The other is much more horizontal in nature where, say, a vendor provides the compute layer but do so very broadly.

Sinclair contends that the latter, more decoupled topology is favourable in that it minimises the risks involved in breaking out one sub-optimally performing layer.

Conceptually speaking there would seem to be something to be gained from going with the vertical topoloy, mnimising relationships, points of contact building efficiencies. I also however understand Sinclairs concerns about the risk of a monolith.

Interesting discussion

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More on SFDC/Google apps

I’ve just been alerted to the following video;

It looks compelling, and Phil Wainewright goes hyperbolic to the extreme when he says;

When it takes just a mouse click to open Gmail and have the message saved with the prospect record, it won’t take long before Gmail becomes the default email system for most Salesforce users

Yeah like maybe if SFDC was the one system that enterprise used, everyone within an organisation was always locked within a SFDC environment, and enterprise had faith in on-demand office productivity apps…

But it isn’t, they aren’t and it doesn’t.

Get real guys - SFDC/Google apps, at this point in time isn’t ground breaking.

However…… a very reputable source (who by the way has been using MS Outlook and MS Sharepoint within a Salesforce environment for well over a year already), tells me that Salesforce are spending huge amounts of money to seamlessly provide a Microsoft integration to the same (or better) extent that the SFDC/Google one does).

Now that would start to be game changing…. And would fit nicely into the software+services play that Redmond keeps waxing poetic about. It would fit nicely with where enterprise is currently at and it would dovetail with SFDC’s target and current market.

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