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Salesforce and Google integrate some more

Since the beginning of the year Salesforce’s Tour de Force event has been touring the world. The Tour de Force events are all about the Force.com platform as a service, leaving Salesforce’s CRM offering for discussion at the Dreamforce conference. Today’s stop on the tour was the home town stop of Silicon Valley so had a bit more importance to it. The Tour de Force is coming to Australia later in the year but dates haven’t been announced yet.

The keynote from CEO Mark Benioff was live blogged here by the new TechCrunchIT blog and is available to watch here.

The key announcement today was the Force.com Toolkit for Google Data API’s. Earlier in the year we saw the first steps of integration between Google and Salesforce with access to Google Docs from within Salesforce. This was supported by some 3rd party addons to help with user provisioning between both services and adding buttons within Salesforce to associate Google Docs with a particular account or contact or open Gmail when viewing a contact. At the time there were also new code examples on the Force.com wiki of using Google’s Data APIs.

So what makes today’s announcement different? The previous Google Data integration was using Google’s javascript API’s. Javascript operates client side and the browser was the middle man between Salesforce and Google data. Today’s announcement takes away the middle man and enables server to server communication between Salesforce and Google’s servers. This is being implemented by new methods in Salesforce’s server side Apex programming language.

The initial Google API’s available are:

  • Google Documents API
  • Google Calendar API
  • Google Spreadsheet API
  • Blogger API
  • Contacts API
  • Google Data Authentication

The Toolkit will expand to incorporate more of Google’s offerings and has been issued under the open source BSD license.

So what to make of this? From a technical point of view it’s cool, but we have had SOAP and REST integration between websites for a while. From an alliance point of view it’s about establishing a combined threat against Microsoft. Salesforce is a becoming a big player with market cap today of 8.75B (having just overtaken Sun Microsystems 8.71B). It’s a longer term move that won’t bring about immediate results. Salesforce serves big companies while Google’s enterprise offerings currently are more suited to small companies. This alliance is about working towards a convergence that might not be realised for another 2-3 years but would you want to be Microsoft when it is?

Benioff on the future…

Robert Scoble interviewed salesforce.com chairman and CEO Marc Benioff in a broad ranging discussion about the future of applications and platforms. It’s an interesting and insightful interview. Key takeouts and themes were;

  • It’s not about the browser, it’s about the network. With a move to mobile and other non PC devices, platforms that can serve device agnostic data will win
  • SFDC is now over $1bill revenue and most recent quarter showed 50% growth
  • Benioff lambasts the incumbent ISVs in particular, saying many times that they block innovation
  • This Monday a major announcement will be made regarding a Google/salesforce partnership in terms of platform sharing

In an interesting exchange, Scoble asks Benioff how one changes the thinking of people mired in Windows 2000 and the Word/Excel/Powerpoint world. Benioff uses the example of when he started at Oracle 20 years ago and CIOs were reluctant to use Oracle, wedded as the were to the DEC incumbent offerings Benioff gave this excellent quote;

In this industry we tend to overestimate what we can achieve in a year but underestimate what we can achieve in a decade

A great interview and an insight into the thinking of one of the earliest SaaS disrupters. Check out the full video here.

Is there a SaaS 1.0 and a SaaS 2.0?

With all the attention of late that PaaS providers are getting, it seems a good time to reflect on the stark contrast between two types of SaaS provider: those who do their own infrastructure, and those who farm it out.

Everyone knows that salesforce.com is the grandaddy of SaaS vendors, and it has gone down the only path that was open to it when it was conceived, that of creating and hosting its own infrastructure. As the somewhat acidic FSJ commented;

Benioff, ironically, has built his business around a bloated, overly expensive, outdated business model, a model that comes straight out of the late Nineties — he’s running his own data center, and he’s using Sun servers and Oracle software. It’s like “Back to the Future.” Meanwhile the rest of the world has leapt ahead onto Intel architecture and Linux. For Benioff to survive into the era of the cloud he’ll have to rip up his entire architecture and rebuild it. Yeah. It’s like that. He’s stuck. And he knows it. He’s not doing cloud computing. He’s doing what we all already recognize was a precursor to the cloud.

Already the CEO of SaaS vendor Sonian Networks uses the term “Legacy SaaS” to refer to those player of old who actual do their own hosting and serving.

I think it’s too early to entirely discount the self-hosting strategy, but it does seem, with ubiquitous, scalable and economically priced PaaS solutions now available from a number of vendors, that proprietary infrastructure will go the way of greenscreens.

A post over on ZDNet that included this estimated price for hosting a CRM type app on BungeeConnect;

At $3.60 per month it would seem something of a no-brainer to avoid the hassle, scaling issues and non-core business removal of focus that self provided infrastructure would cause.

So, over to the readers to vote;

Are SaaS vendors who self provide their own infrastructure;

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Zoho creating a Salesforce doppelganger… or more…

News this morning that Zoho CRM is launching an enterprise edition.

I’ve always had a little bit of scepticism about enterprise editions - knowing what I know about enterprise it seems that the only different between SMB and enterprise editions is that the latter need to be slower, more needlessly complex, double up lots of functionality and put in place some filters to disconnect the technology from its actual users. Yeah I’m kind of dubious about enterprise! That rant aside let’s look at the offering…

First the new functionality;

  • Role-based Security Administration
  • More product Customisation & Data Administration
  • Multi-language Support
  • SSL Support for Professional & Enterprise Versions
  • Integration with Zoho Sheet
  • Improved Business Functionality including the ability to;
    • Automatically update Stock information once the Purchase Order is approved
    • Find and Merge the duplicate records in Vendors module
    • Convert Quote to Sales Order or Invoice in a single click
    • Convert Sales Order to Invoice in a single click
    • Add account information automatically while creating quotes/orders/invoices from the potentials
  • Wiki-based Context-sensitive Help

Here is a schematic of the way the role-based security and authentication works;

All this is levelling the playing field with SFDC, but as Zoli points out, Zoho already has a breadth of functionality that is already wider than Salesforce’s, resulting in an (almost) ERP offering.

An interesting look sat the ZohoCRM vs SFDC comparison can be seen in this chart the most telling comparison for those who don’t want to trawl through detail is the following, giving the details for a 5 person organisation.

As another interesting aside to the announcement this week about the SFDC/Google apps integration, Zoho has plans to integrate its writing, mail and otherĀ  business apps in its CRM offering - thereby kneecapping the SFDC/Google offering (at least into SMB anyway).

So…. what does it all mean? Well I can’t but wonder what the game plan is for Zoho. As released a couple of days ago, Zoho has already rebuffed a takeover discussion with Salesforce, their rationale was that the cultural fit just wasn’t there (which is probably right). So what is the plan - while this offering moves more towards enterprise, it’s hard to imagine enterprise feeling comfortable jumping onboard en masse with a relatively small, relatively unknown such as Zoho. The SMB space is hard to monetize (and when you give stuff away free at the start it’s pretty hard to revert to a monetized model).

So I don’t see where all this is heading - Zoho is fantastic, the breadth of their offerings, their speed of development and their reaction to what else is going on in the space - its the business stratgy that has me wondering.